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 Mepis 8.0 backports
Brooko,

Whats the situation on support for backports for Mepis 8.0? Is 8.0 still being supported? I noticed that at some stages you were backporting, in particular, BoW. The repos (both main and community) are falling behind with Wesnoth 1.8.4 out (and 1.9.0 in development).

There are a few other packages (VLC, GIMP, Digikam, WINE) that are also lagging. Any chance of backporting or pointing us to a tutorial on how to do it?

I'd particularly like to know how to safely backport and thus update my packages. I don't want to unnecessarily bother you.

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Fair question

Wesnoth-1.8 1.8-3 is in the 8.5 repo (http://main.mepis-deb.org/mepiscr/repo/pool/main/w/wesnoth-1.8/)

1.8.3-5 is the latest in Sid/Testing - which is where we backport from.

Wine's latest version in 8.5 is 1.3.1 (same as latest release from Wine itself)
(http://main.mepis-deb.org/mepiscr/repo/pool/main/w/wine/)

Wine is a standalone deb now - so if you uninstall your old wine - then download and install the single deb - it 'should' work in 8.0 as well. You'd need to try it though.

As far as VLC, Digikam and Gimp go - I don't maintain those packages.

Re backporting for 8.0 - I rarely do any backporting for MEPIS 8 now - I concentrate solely on 8.5. The reason is both time and bandwidth. Take Wesnoth for example - if I could use same source and only upload it once - then it's still a 900Mb upload to do both 8.0 and 8.5.

Wine - even on my quad - is typically a 30-40 minute build.

Personally (and this is just my view), I already regard 8.0 as basically end of life. 11 is just around the corner - only maybe 3-4 months from final release. I haven't bothered keeping up with it because not too many people have asked for packages for it.

I'll tell you what - I'll rebuild latest Sid Wesnoth for 8.5 sometime this weekend - but when I do I'll give you a step by step of how I do it. You can basically apply same steps for any package in upstream debian.

I'll also provide a how-to on how I build Wine.

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Brooko,

That would be awesome (the guides)!

Thanks for the heads-up on simplyMEPIS v11. I am eagerly awaiting it. I only use 8.0 because I'm one of those Luddites that is resisting the move to KDE4. I still like KDE3 in many respects but some of my favourite apps are feeling the strain.

Personally I'd really *LOVE* a hybrid of KDE3 and KDE4. The look and feel of KDE3 with the updated apps of KDE4. OK. OK. when v11 comes out I'll *try* to make the switch permanent.... ;)

I've read that you shouldn't mix 8.0 and 8.5 repos, albeit from 8.0 in 8.5 so maybe *some* apps can be used from 8.5 in 8.0. I can only try it...(VM first of course).

So if it's a "simple" matter of pulling BoW from 8.5 then no need to backport, though I'd still be grateful for a guide on how to port other apps for future reference. Maybe flag it for everyone.

Thanks again Brooko!


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I've built BoW 32b for 8.0 already, and am building 64b now. I'll then do same for 8.5.

I'll have a how to (vbasic backporting) in place later today for you. I still have to do the Wine one - it works a little differently. I might leave that one until the next wine update though - so I can just do 8.0 and 8.5 together.

Have you tried 8.5 yet? I noted your comment on KDE3 with later apps. The way Warren configured 8.5, it's as close as you'll get to a KDE4 version 'acting' like KDE3 - or at least it's not totally foreign. I look at it as an easier step transitioning from KDE3 to KDE4.

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Brooko,

I have tried 8.5 and I do like it. I use it sometimes for file management because although I really dislike Dolphin and the whole theme (eye candy) of KDE4 (too Vista and Mac for me) I appreciate the enhancements to usability though.

The reason I haven't fully committed to 8.5 is that I've committed so much effort in getting my 8.0 system "perfect" that to have to start all over with 8.5 was too much effort. I don't have an internet connection at home, so use the work one to laboriously update, run aptoncd, take the DVD home, update the desktop. Remember dial-up? Papua New Guinea internet speeds are even slower! (unless you want to pay stupid prices (1000's) for anything remotely close to acceptable.....

I am really looking forward to 11.0 as the best visually appealing implementation of KDE4 so far has been VectorLinux 6 SOHO. I wasn't very impressed with openSUSE either (too slow on my system.

So admittedly some of my favourite apps are getting long in the tooth, but I haven't had a desperately compelling reason to upgrade to KDE4 totally yet.

Thanks for porting BoW 1.8.4 (I'd hate to think that 1.9.0 gets released next week after all your effort!:eek: ) 1.9.0 apparently has some major changes to it that are worth the update.

I look forward to the back-porting guide.


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Wesnoth-1.8 version 1.8.3-5 is currently uploading to MEPIS 8 CR MAIN. It's a very slow upload - but should be in the CR within the next 24-48 hours.

I've also compiled a version for 8.5 but will upload that later in the weekend.

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And here's your step by step example
http://www.mepislovers.org/showthread.php?t=27996

Best idea is to read this alongside the wiki entry on Community packaging:
http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Mepis_Package_Building_Guide

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