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Firstly, you won't get a connection plugging into the wall socket! You need an ethernet cable to plug the laptop into the router. There should be an ehternet socket or two round the back of the router.

Secondly, try the Mepis Network Assistant.

I've got a BT Home Hub (Version 1 I think.) and it works great both over ethernet cable and wirelessly.


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Have you tried the MEPIS Network Assistant? Perhaps switching to manual may allow connection.
A cable is the way to go.
If wireless is important then you need to install wicd and ceni. Both are very reliable. I use wicd on my antiX 8.2 environment and it makes my Netbook able to connect all over the place.

PS: Network Manager shouldn't do anything if you have it running. It's totally automatic. If you switch to manual in the Assistant then you will not have Network Manager after you reboot. You have to start it manually if you want to let it take over.

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I am still unable to make wireless work on my 8.5 desktop install but have no probs with 8.0 on the same machine. Something I was going to try but have not yet is to use the live cd and network manager to try to setup. Sometimes the live cd works where the installed version won't.... worth a try anyhow. Also should mention that I have no luck with wicd on anything unless the connection is not secured so I consider it a waste of time for me but others have great success with it. Just my 2cents. :cool:


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Looks like gsd4me has gone over to Linuxquestions seeking answers...


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gsd4me,

It might help to mention what kind of security you are using for your wireless (i.e. none, WEP, WPA)

The only advice I can give is my experience with the kwallet issue. See this post:http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=26098

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I think you may be onto something chatan. KWallet has to be dealt with.

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You are still not there.

Leave the ADSL connection as it is. Forget USB, its a red herring. Forget the socket for connecting your phone - its for connecting your phone.

Connect one of the four ethernet sockets on the home hub to the ethernet socket on your computer.

Now in you browser type in the ip address (maybe http://192.168.0.1 but check the docs and see what NoSavvy had to say) for your router and see if you get into the router and enter btpasswords & disable wireless security (until you are up and running)

Read the section 'the science bit' here:

http://www.btbroadbandinformation.com/h ... ss-router/


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OK folks – a summary of today (drawing together ideas from the 3 different forums that I have been in contact with over this problem)

I connected my ethernet cable to my home hub – thanks to the people who pointed out that it should plug into the hub itself and not the phone plate (even though I thought that the 'other' (non-phone) RJ11 connection was the one required).

Played about with the settings using MEPIS Network Asssistant and – lo! And behold! - internet access. So connection finally done, but via ethernet. However, just what I needed – another cable trailing about the house!

So I played about with the Network assistant again – and still couldn't get the wireless connection to work.

On the General tab of the Assistant, the ethernet connection went green when live but the wlan0 will not move beyond grey and its status says that it “ started but failed to connect” and no matter what I did (using Konsole, GUIs) it simply wouldn't play ball.

Some points to ponder that I obtained that may get the grey matter of you experienced folks:
According to Network Assistant (Troubleshooting tab), “List Linux Drivers” gives:
RTL8187 25058 0
R8169 26775 0
mii 2658 1 r8169

“List Windows drivers” gives:
airplus
bcmwl5
bcmwl5a
lstinds
mrv8k51
net8185
netr33x
prismnic
wlannic
wlanuig
wlipnds

Mean anything to anyone?

“iwconfig” from Konsole gives:
l0 – no wireless extensions
eth0 – no wireless extensions
wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg Mode:Managed Access point:Not associated
Tx-power = 0 dBm
Retry long limit : 7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr: off
encryption key: off Power management: off

“ifconfig” gives
eth0 – link encap ethernet
wlan0 – link encap ethernet Up Broadcast Multicast

“ifup wlan0” gives
ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0


So to answer some questions and points raised on the forums – apologies but I am just going to cut and paste this onto each of them:

JBOMAN on the MEPIS Community forum (viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29148&p=258228#p258228) pointed out that he couldn't get v8.5 to connect to his wifi, where v 8.0 had worked. I too am running v8.5, obtained on a disc from an outlet.

IanC on the BT Forum (http://community.bt.com/t5/BB-in-Home/M ... /m-p/99093) asked what version of MEPIS – 8.5 as per above paragraph.

Chatan (viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29148&p=258228#p258228) – the connection security is WPA2 Personal

Also thanks to everyone else who posted things for me to try.

SO – I can use my ethernet cable to connect to the internet but not my Home Hub, which was the main point of the question.

HOWEVER – I thought (as I mentioned elsewhere in one of the posts) – perhaps I DID make the wrong choice – how does any other Linux flavour work?
So I inserted the distribution disk that I have for Ubuntu and ran it from the CD. The wireless connection wizard was SO much simpler than MEPIS and after 30 seconds – the WI FI CONNECTION WAS ESTABLISHED – no messing about, straight in.

Therefore – it seems that something about MEPIS or MEPIS v8.5 does not like my BT Home Hub (or vice versa?).

Once again many thanks to all the contributors – I really am most appreciative of the time and effort that you all have made to try and help this Linux Virgin and for suggesting different approaches for me to try.

I am going to leave this question as now 'solved' (after a fashion) as my wife needs the laptop for business but what I shall eventually do is remove MEPIS, use its CD as a coffee coaster, and install Ubuntu. Pity because I liked the way that MEPIS was set up but wifi access is what I need.


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I've been getting similar "started but failed to connect" issues with certain kernels. (I won't go into too much detail here, there's a bit of detail in the M11 alpha 4 thread.) I believe it's a kernel module conflict. Could you post the output of the lsmod command? It might turn out that you need to unload and blacklist (a) certain module(s), which is a fairly painless procedure from what I can make out.

At this point, could someone experienced in such matters jump in here because this is the first time I've tackled such a problem so am making it all up as I go along a bit to resolve my problems...


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BOWLKOOK As per your request for the lsmod ouput

[root@mepis1 ~]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
uinput 4668 1
binfmt_misc 4847 1
rfcomm 24983 0
hidp 8436 2
l2cap 21673 10 rfcomm,hidp
bluetooth 36035 5 rfcomm,hidp,l2cap
ppdev 3974 0
lp 5490 0
parport 21766 2 ppdev,lp
cpufreq_userspace 1416 0
cpufreq_stats 1928 0
cpufreq_powersave 578 0
cpufreq_conservative 3994 0
fuse 43423 1
dm_crypt 9027 0
arc4 950 2
ecb 1381 2
snd_hda_codec_realtek 163094 1
snd_hda_intel 15353 2
joydev 6724 0
snd_hda_codec 44409 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
rtl8187 25058 0
snd_hwdep 3930 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm_oss 27745 0
snd_mixer_oss 10241 1 snd_pcm_oss
mac80211 122668 1 rtl8187
led_class 1717 1 rtl8187
snd_pcm 45612 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_midi 3288 0
snd_rawmidi 12033 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 3564 1 snd_seq_midi
cfg80211 86249 2 rtl8187,mac80211
snd_seq 34783 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer 12034 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
i2c_i801 6310 0
rfkill 9976 2 bluetooth,cfg80211
snd_seq_device 3625 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
pcspkr 1183 0
wmi 3523 0
psmouse 31971 0
eeprom_93cx6 931 1 rtl8187
evdev 5573 13
i2c_core 12449 1 i2c_i801
processor 26435 2
battery 3698 0
ac 1552 0
usblp 7579 0
serio_raw 2884 0
snd 32475 15
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_ra wmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore 3350 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 4773 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
dm_mirror 9587 0
dm_region_hash 5363 1 dm_mirror
dm_log 6273 2 dm_mirror,dm_region_hash
dm_snapshot 17646 0
dm_mod 45302 4 dm_crypt,dm_mirror,dm_log,dm_snapshot
raid10 16701 0
raid456 42140 0
async_raid6_recov 3946 1 raid456
async_pq 2563 2 raid456,async_raid6_recov
raid6_pq 77787 2 async_raid6_recov,async_pq
async_xor 1846 3 raid456,async_raid6_recov,async_pq
xor 12493 1 async_xor
async_memcpy 810 2 raid456,async_raid6_recov
async_tx 1246 5
raid456,async_raid6_recov,async_pq,async_xor,async_memcpy
raid1 16019 0
usbhid 26344 0
raid0 5609 0
hid 50289 2 hidp,usbhid
multipath 5077 0
linear 3195 0
md_mod 66541 6 raid10,raid456,raid1,raid0,multipath,linear
video 14589 0
output 1116 1 video
r8169 26775 0
mii 2658 1 r8169
uhci_hcd 15885 0
intel_agp 20141 1
button 3506 0
thermal 9118 0
fan 2566 0
thermal_sys 9326 4 processor,video,thermal,fan


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