MEPIS Community Forum

A Linux operating system based on Debian Stable
View unanswered posts | View unsolved topics | View active topics |



Reply to topic  [ 23 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Replacing old hardware - need some help 
Author Message
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:37 pm
Posts: 744
Location: Arab, Alabama
Has thanked: 106 times
Have thanks: 37 times
Post # 296254
Post Replacing old hardware - need some help
I am helping in a community lab with 12 computers. The computers are older and are giving us more and more problems and are ready to be replaced. We only have a budget to be able to spend $500 per computer. They want to run 64 bit Win7 professional to be able to run XP in a virtual mode.
This is the configuration that I picked out to meet their price point.

CPU AMD - FX Series FD4100WMGUSBX $ 95
Mobo ASUS M5A88-V EVO $120
PSU ENERMAX ENP450AST $ 50
RAM (2 sticks) Kingston HyperX - Blu KHX1333C9D3B1R/4G $ 40
or (Crucial) (CT51264BD1339) ($40)
HD HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.D $ 80
Case Rosewill REDBONE U3 $ 50
DVD LITE-ON iHAS324-99 $ 22
Media Card Rosewill RCR-IC001 $ 15

That gets us to $472/computer.

Do you think it will do the job or should I consider something else. Or are we just barely going to be there and may be better off rounding up more dollars before proceeding. They would really like to go with the Intel i5, but that increases the cost too much. I would apprecite any feedback you all could give me. TIA

_________________
Mepis11 & MX14 MoBo ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 945 PSU CORSAIR CX500 (CMPSU-500CX) RAM Crucial CT2KIT25664BA1339 HD WD5000AAKX Wireless EDIMAX EW 7128g


Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:34 pm
Profile
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:42 pm
Posts: 4445
Has thanked: 123 times
Have thanks: 910 times
Post # 296257
Post Re: Replacing old hardware - need some help
I see no reason why that shouldn't give you very good service for quite some time.

Good choice of components, IMO.

_________________
Desktop: Custom build Asus/AMD/nVidia -- MEPIS 11
Netbook: Fujitsu Lifebook Pentium M -- MX-14
Laptop: Acer Aspire 5250 AMD Dual -- SolydK 64


Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:41 pm
Profile
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:54 am
Posts: 10948
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma U.S.A.
Has thanked: 3703 times
Have thanks: 888 times
Post # 296260
Post Re: Replacing old hardware - need some help
Ditto

_________________
Yes, even I am dishonest. Not in many ways, but in some. Forty-one, I think it is.
--Mark Twain


Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:55 pm
Profile
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:09 pm
Posts: 611
Location: Dallas, Texas
Has thanked: 40 times
Have thanks: 58 times
Post # 296261
Post Re: Replacing old hardware - need some help
Go for it.

Steve

_________________
I messed with the dragon and now I am ready for the ketchup!
The only stupid question is the one you already know the answer.

~Krispy Kritter~

Toshiba Satellite A215-S7427(AMD-64)
Windows7/M11(KDE4.6.5)/M11(RoadblockTRK2-32)'buntus13.1/MX14b2/Tanglu1.0


Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:58 pm
Profile WWW
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:57 am
Posts: 797
Has thanked: 22 times
Have thanks: 115 times
Post # 296263
Post Re: Replacing old hardware - need some help
If you are buying "now now" I'd swap out your processor and motherboard for:

ASUS F1A75-M PRO:: $104
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813131764

AMD A8-3870K Unlocked Llano/Fusion @ 3.0GHz:: $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819106001

This puts you closer to $500 ($501) and drops you back to AMD's older Stars architecture, but it also gives you a much beefier graphics processor and a much better all-around processor core. And if your community director asks why you need a beefier graphics processor unit: http://www.khronos.org/opencl/

Thing is AMD's current Bulldozer architecture has an amazing integer processing core and threaded performance, but a less than bleeding edge floating-point operator. This was one of the reasons that the Bulldozer processors had such "meh" reviews on it's launch. AMD's official position is that they already make an amazing floating-point operator processor with RadeonHD, and there really is not a lot of OpenCL accelerated applications available. To that end AMD has been sinking money into OpenCL software development. The integrated 4250 in the AM3+ motherboard you've picked won't be beefy enough to offset the lack of Floating-Point processing power in the Bulldozer processor core, and you'd really need to invest in an add-in graphics card for each computer for Bulldozer to "look good."

Additionally, going Socket FM1 now will set you up to skip to a Piledriver/Fusion architecture chip.

If you do not have to buy right now, I'd strongly suggest you wait for the Socket FM1 Trinity (Piledriver/Fusion) chips to start entering the market within the next couple of months.

_________________
Slow, lazy, but still around: Call me if ya need help
http://zerias.blogspot.com
http://www.mepisguides.com
Biting the Bullet: Help
Want to buy Mepis Based Computer? Ask me!
http://bit.ly/fbs47I


Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:33 am

Saist thanked by: Topher
Profile WWW
Forum Guide
Forum Guide

Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:47 pm
Posts: 1452
Location: Savannah, GA
Has thanked: 85 times
Have thanks: 288 times
Post # 296269
Post Re: Replacing old hardware - need some help
I'd be inclined to lean towards a solution with better graphics, too. More and more applications are using GPGPU computing techniques to accelerate processing via OpenCL and other solutions as time passes (by compiling code to run on both the CPU and GPU, even if it's not graphics specific). I've been seeing a big move in that direction with image and video processing software. But, we're starting to see more types of other applications taking advantage of GPU processing, too.

BTW, if you look at the available combos at newegg.com, you can sometimes find better prices. For example, here's a combo with the CPU and MB that Saist suggested:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDeal ... mbo.835839


Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:32 am

JimC thanked by: Topher
Profile
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:50 am
Posts: 689
Location: Third Stone From The Sun
Has thanked: 74 times
Have thanks: 73 times
Post # 296281
Post Re: Replacing old hardware - need some help
For a community lab use with a budget, I think you have chosen well. What are the users going to be using them for? A little web surfing, some word/data base work, reading their email. How are the monitors doing?
Do they already have a copy of Windows7 with 12 seats yet? Just brain storming.

_________________
Research, Research, Research, Before You Walk The Plank.
Registered Linux User # 398829


Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:23 pm
Profile
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:54 am
Posts: 10948
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma U.S.A.
Has thanked: 3703 times
Have thanks: 888 times
Post # 296290
Post Re: Replacing old hardware - need some help
I tend to agree. The latest and greatest is the enemy of good enough. If it does what you need.....

_________________
Yes, even I am dishonest. Not in many ways, but in some. Forty-one, I think it is.
--Mark Twain


Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:52 pm
Profile
Forum Guide
Forum Guide

Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:47 pm
Posts: 1452
Location: Savannah, GA
Has thanked: 85 times
Have thanks: 288 times
Post # 296302
Post Re: Replacing old hardware - need some help
Yea... But, the solution with the much better graphics costs only $5 more per machine compared to the MB/CPU combo he's looking at when using the available Combo price at newegg.com (thanks to the $25 discount for the combo that Saist suggested that I included a link to in my last post), keeping the machines within the $500 each budget.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDeal ... mbo.835839

So, for around $5 more per machine, I'd go with something with more GPU processing power compared to the integrated HD 4200 series graphics. Even for web browsing only, we're seeing more and more sites using video and graphics that can be taxing on older GPUs; and the integrated HD 6550D graphics in the Motherboard and CPU that Saist suggested tests almost 4 times as fast as HD 4250 graphics on the passmark GPU tests.

HD 4250:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video ... on+HD+4250

HD 6550D:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video ... n+HD+6550D

That's a big difference in GPU performance for a negligible price increase, and it would be better to get something roughly 4 times as fast up front for virtually no cost difference, versus needing to install video cards later if the machines can't handle the video and graphics being used by more web sites (and other applications) down the road before it's time to replace the machines again.


Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:13 pm
Profile
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:54 am
Posts: 10948
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma U.S.A.
Has thanked: 3703 times
Have thanks: 888 times
Post # 296313
Post Re: Replacing old hardware - need some help
Point taken.

_________________
Yes, even I am dishonest. Not in many ways, but in some. Forty-one, I think it is.
--Mark Twain


Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:35 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 23 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Protected by Anti-Spam ACP Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by STSoftware for PTF.