M 12 alpha getting close

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M 12 alpha getting close

#1 Postby Jerry3904 » Tue May 01, 2012 7:41 pm

I wrote Warren today, asking for news, got this back:
Hi Jerry,

I have it running in 32 and 64 (in sync with Wheezy but with a 3.3
kernel) and booting on DVD.

I need to do some clean up on the DVD boot and update minstall.

Then it should be ready for an alpha, maybe about two weeks.
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Re: M 12 alpha getting close

#2 Postby uncle mark » Tue May 01, 2012 10:45 pm

Sweet. Time to clear off a partition...

I've been playing with the new Ubuntu and Kubuntu the last couple of evenings. Phew. Makes me appreciate Warren's work once again. Unity... sorry, that's just silly. Kubuntu, on the other hand, is pretty sweet.

But, I've got no sound in either one. Comparing Kubuntu to my M11 install, I think I need to install the Phonon Xine backend. Ubuntu, I have no clue. All of which is disappointing. Nowadays there's no excuse for bog standard sound not to work out of the box with any recent desktop Linux install.

00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
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Re: M 12 alpha getting close

#3 Postby Saist » Wed May 02, 2012 1:58 am

AMD's HDA bridges can get a little messy depending on whether or not it's an IGP or an APU part.

Right off hand the SBx00 would indicate a SouthBridge part, ergo, an older IGP part.

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Re: M 12 alpha getting close

#4 Postby Danum » Wed May 02, 2012 7:59 am

uncle mark wrote:But, I've got no sound in either one. Comparing Kubuntu to my M11 install, I think I need to install the Phonon Xine backend. Ubuntu, I have no clue. All of which is disappointing. Nowadays there's no excuse for bog standard sound not to work out of the box with any recent desktop Linux install.

00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)

Kubuntu or any other Linux OS will not set up sound in your Bios for you, that is up to you to do.
Because sound does work out of the box with the motherboard in your signature, if the bios is setup correctly.
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Re: M 12 alpha getting close

#5 Postby richb » Wed May 02, 2012 8:13 am

Danum wrote:
uncle mark wrote:But, I've got no sound in either one. Comparing Kubuntu to my M11 install, I think I need to install the Phonon Xine backend. Ubuntu, I have no clue. All of which is disappointing. Nowadays there's no excuse for bog standard sound not to work out of the box with any recent desktop Linux install.

00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)

Kubuntu or any other Linux OS will not set up sound in your Bios for you, that is up to you to do.
Because sound does work out of the box with the motherboard in your signature, if the bios is setup correctly.

With my sandy bridge processor, Nvidia Optimus, the system would not even boot until I disabled the discrete Nvidia GPU in favor of the integrated intel GPU. Not strictly a sound issue, but punctuates the importance of bios settings in Linux.
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Re: M 12 alpha getting close

#6 Postby Jerry3904 » Wed May 02, 2012 8:18 am

the importance of bios settings in Linux
We have nothing in the Manual on this! I have started a separate thread to try to collect ideas for the next edition.
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Re: M 12 alpha getting close

#7 Postby uncle mark » Wed May 02, 2012 9:12 am

Danum wrote:
uncle mark wrote:But, I've got no sound in either one. Comparing Kubuntu to my M11 install, I think I need to install the Phonon Xine backend. Ubuntu, I have no clue. All of which is disappointing. Nowadays there's no excuse for bog standard sound not to work out of the box with any recent desktop Linux install.

00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)

Kubuntu or any other Linux OS will not set up sound in your Bios for you, that is up to you to do.
Because sound does work out of the box with the motherboard in your signature, if the bios is setup correctly.


Yeah, it's the same machine, with the same BIOS settings since I built it and set it up over a year ago. This is the first time I've had any difficulty with any sound stuff on it with any installs I've done. At least that I recall. It's been a long while since I've done any. I'll take a look in there when I get a chance.
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Re: M 12 alpha getting close

#8 Postby ko » Wed May 02, 2012 2:14 pm

Jerry3904 wrote:I wrote Warren today, asking for news, got this back:
Hi Jerry,

I have it running in 32 and 64 (in sync with Wheezy but with a 3.3
kernel) and booting on DVD.
I need to do some clean up on the DVD boot and update minstall.
Then it should be ready for an alpha, maybe about two weeks.

Ahhh, a 3.3 kernel -I like the one currently used in antiX M12: version 3.3.3
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Re: M 12 alpha getting close

#9 Postby GuiGuy » Wed May 02, 2012 5:55 pm

Will M12 be Grubwise compatible with older Mepis versions?

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Re: M 12 alpha getting close

#10 Postby kmathern » Wed May 02, 2012 6:32 pm

GuiGuy wrote:Will M12 be Grubwise compatible with older Mepis versions?

M12 will use grub2 if that's what you're asking. viewtopic.php?p=294100#p294100


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