Question re: Lenny repos

Here is where users who have been using MEPIS awhile and know the basics of linux and MEPIS can ask questions.
Message
Author
User avatar
uncle mark
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 5360
Age: 2015
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:42 pm

Question re: Lenny repos

#1 Postby uncle mark » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:38 pm

I've cobbled together what should be an adequately performing desktop that I might just offer up to the gal that got taken on the laptop that I've posted about recently. Owing to the specs on the machine and my opinion that KDE3 is more "XP like" than KDE4, I've started an install of M8 and will see how that goes.

My question is regarding your recommendations regarding setting up the repos. I believe Lenny is now considered 'old-stable'; should I edit the sources to use that term, or will 'lenny' suffice? Additionally, is there an advantage to adding 'lenny-backports'? And yes, I'd be enabling the M8 CR main and getting everything as close to current as possible.

Just want to head off any future problems with updates and installations. If/when they take this thing they will be on their own. I don't do tutoring or phone support.
Desktop: Custom build Asus/AMD/nVidia -- MX-15 KDE, MEPIS 11
Laptop: Acer Aspire 5250 -- MX-15

User avatar
kmathern
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 9011
Age: 58
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:26 pm

Re: Question re: Lenny repos

#2 Postby kmathern » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:55 pm

uncle mark wrote:I've cobbled together what should be an adequately performing desktop that I might just offer up to the gal that got taken on the laptop that I've posted about recently. Owing to the specs on the machine and my opinion that KDE3 is more "XP like" than KDE4, I've started an install of M8 and will see how that goes.

My question is regarding your recommendations regarding setting up the repos. I believe Lenny is now considered 'old-stable'; should I edit the sources to use that term, or will 'lenny' suffice? Additionally, is there an advantage to adding 'lenny-backports'? And yes, I'd be enabling the M8 CR main and getting everything as close to current as possible.

Just want to head off any future problems with updates and installations. If/when they take this thing they will be on their own. I don't do tutoring or phone support.

I would keep them at "lenny" and "lenny-backports".

Sometime in the next few months both "lenny" and "oldstable" are going to disappear from the Debian repos. The "oldstable" repo will reappear when Wheezy is released as "stable" and squeeze becomes "oldstable", that's a ways off in the future though.

When Lenny is removed from the Debian repos it will be moved to archive.debian.org and the url for the Lenny repos will need to be changed as described here: http://archive.debian.org/debian/README. That will probably be sometime in May or June. Maybe add a sources.list entry with the archive.debian.org url, but have it disabled for now.
Last edited by kmathern on Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
richb
Administrator
Posts: 13030
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:17 pm

Re: Question re: Lenny repos

#3 Postby richb » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:01 pm

In addition my understanding is that lenny will not be updated with security updates. I think the it is safe and advisable to add lenny-backports, if for nothing else than security updates. If it is any benchmark, the squeeze-backports repo has been trouble free for me.
Forum Rules
Guide - How to Ask for Help

Rich

Laptop: Acer V5-572G: Intel i5, 12 GIG mem, Intel graphics, SanDisk SSD, 256GB
Virtualbox: Win 7
Desktop: MX-15- 64, AMD A8 7600 FM2+ CPU R7 Graphics, fglrx driver, 16 GIG Mem. Samsung EVO SSD 250 GB

User avatar
JBoman
Forum Guide
Forum Guide
Posts: 1483
Age: 58
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:30 pm

Re: Question re: Lenny repos

#4 Postby JBoman » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:27 pm

uncle mark, have also set up Linux on quite a few older machines for folks like the client you are describing and in my experience I no longer will leave the repos enabled at all as you will get that phone call if you do. When they know nothing about Linux and have no desire to learn it in most cases updates will only cause them and you trouble. Fortunatly though once set up as you are happy with they really don't need to update since the OS remains for the most part stable. I would instead encourage her to buy and install a good router if she doesn't already have one and if any updating is allowed it would be for the browser only. Good luck with whatever you decide. :crossfingers: Jerry
http://patentabsurdity.com/
AMD 64x2 2.6GHz 4GB ram MX-15 regular updates
"beware a frequent flirt with potential disaster"

User avatar
richb
Administrator
Posts: 13030
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:17 pm

Re: Question re: Lenny repos

#5 Postby richb » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:41 pm

JBoman wrote:uncle mark, have also set up Linux on quite a few older machines for folks like the client you are describing and in my experience I no longer will leave the repos enabled at all as you will get that phone call if you do. When they know nothing about Linux and have no desire to learn it in most cases updates will only cause them and you trouble. Fortunatly though once set up as you are happy with they really don't need to update since the OS remains for the most part stable. I would instead encourage her to buy and install a good router if she doesn't already have one and if any updating is allowed it would be for the browser only. Good luck with whatever you decide. :crossfingers: Jerry

Even with a very stable unchanging repo, in the case of Lenny?
Forum Rules
Guide - How to Ask for Help

Rich

Laptop: Acer V5-572G: Intel i5, 12 GIG mem, Intel graphics, SanDisk SSD, 256GB
Virtualbox: Win 7
Desktop: MX-15- 64, AMD A8 7600 FM2+ CPU R7 Graphics, fglrx driver, 16 GIG Mem. Samsung EVO SSD 250 GB

User avatar
lucky9
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 12358
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:54 am

Re: Question re: Lenny repos

#6 Postby lucky9 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:06 pm

I'm with JBoman on this. Enabling repositories wouldn't be something I'd do. I made that mistake once. Though I can tell you that I ran into support issues in a big way with Yahoo! changing something on their games that broke the ability to play them without major fiddling being required.
Yes, even I am dishonest. Not in many ways, but in some. Forty-one, I think it is.
--Mark Twain

User avatar
richb
Administrator
Posts: 13030
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:17 pm

Re: Question re: Lenny repos

#7 Postby richb » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:25 pm

Not very good testimony for a stable Linux. And nothing will prevent someone from going to a site and downloading a Linux deb to install. Are you proposing disabling any package manager that will install a deb? To be consistent you would have to be.
Forum Rules
Guide - How to Ask for Help

Rich

Laptop: Acer V5-572G: Intel i5, 12 GIG mem, Intel graphics, SanDisk SSD, 256GB
Virtualbox: Win 7
Desktop: MX-15- 64, AMD A8 7600 FM2+ CPU R7 Graphics, fglrx driver, 16 GIG Mem. Samsung EVO SSD 250 GB

User avatar
JBoman
Forum Guide
Forum Guide
Posts: 1483
Age: 58
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:30 pm

Re: Question re: Lenny repos

#8 Postby JBoman » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:40 pm

Install a what ??? will be the first phone call... he he he. :spinning: Jerry
*** and I have to disagree about stability as I think it is more a testimony of the stability of the OS not requiring continuos updates to run basic tasks.
Last edited by JBoman on Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
http://patentabsurdity.com/
AMD 64x2 2.6GHz 4GB ram MX-15 regular updates
"beware a frequent flirt with potential disaster"

User avatar
richb
Administrator
Posts: 13030
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:17 pm

Re: Question re: Lenny repos

#9 Postby richb » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:44 pm

JBoman wrote:Install a what ??? will be the first phone call... he he he. :spinning: Jerry

I guess a phone call is inevitable then. :eek:
Forum Rules
Guide - How to Ask for Help

Rich

Laptop: Acer V5-572G: Intel i5, 12 GIG mem, Intel graphics, SanDisk SSD, 256GB
Virtualbox: Win 7
Desktop: MX-15- 64, AMD A8 7600 FM2+ CPU R7 Graphics, fglrx driver, 16 GIG Mem. Samsung EVO SSD 250 GB

User avatar
JBoman
Forum Guide
Forum Guide
Posts: 1483
Age: 58
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:30 pm

Re: Question re: Lenny repos

#10 Postby JBoman » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:50 pm

richb wrote:
JBoman wrote:Install a what ??? will be the first phone call... he he he. :spinning: Jerry

I guess a phone call is inevitable then. :eek:


Yep, inevitable.... poor uncle mark :bawling: Jerry
http://patentabsurdity.com/
AMD 64x2 2.6GHz 4GB ram MX-15 regular updates
"beware a frequent flirt with potential disaster"


Return to “Regulars”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest