mepis-config & menu's question ???

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mepis-config & menu's question ???

#1 Postby JBoman » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:20 pm

Question is ...does mepis-config cause the applications menu's to be created and if so by what means does it do it?. I ask because after upgrading an install of 11.9.60 up to unstable Debian I noticed in synaptic under the Mepis section that "mepis-config" was a zero byte file so I deleted it thinking it was no longer needed but in doing so I deleted all of my applications menu entries from the kmenu and cannot figure how to get them back or create new ones. :bagoverhead:
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Re: mepis-config & menu's question ???

#2 Postby richb » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:27 pm

I have a simple minded question. Did you delete it or move to trash? If move to trash it can be restored.

I do not know the answer to your question, but menu entries can be created using Edit applications with a right click on the menu icon.
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Re: mepis-config & menu's question ???

#3 Postby JBoman » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:32 pm

richb wrote:I have a simple minded question. Did you delete it or move to trash? If move to trash it can be restored.

I do not know the answer to your question, but menu entries can be created using Edit applications with a right click on the menu icon.


No, I couldn't just move it to the trash I purged it too!
now no edit option when right clicking the icon either... :bawling:

PS: I can still run all my apps from the run dialog but the menu was sooo helpfull.
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Re: mepis-config & menu's question ???

#4 Postby kmathern » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:37 pm

Mepis-config is preinstalled in M11.9.60 (and 11.9.70), but it's not in Warren's Mepis 12 repository for some reason. Not being in a repo might be the reason Synaptic showed it as zero bytes.

Other than reinstalling M11.9.60, about the only way I can think of to get the mepis-config package back would be to run the LiveDVD, install dpkg-repack and run it to recreate a mepis-config package that way. You can then install the repacked mepis-config package in your harddrive install of M11.9.60.

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#5 Postby richb » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:38 pm

JBoman wrote:
richb wrote:I have a simple minded question. Did you delete it or move to trash? If move to trash it can be restored.

I do not know the answer to your question, but menu entries can be created using Edit applications with a right click on the menu icon.


No, I couldn't just move it to the trash I purged it too!
now no edit option when right clicking the icon either... :bawling:

Two things I am running KDE 4.10, it may be different in earlier versions. I am also using the conventional menu. You might try unlocking widgets and then try the right click or install the conventional menu widget.

Alternately alt-F2 and enter kmenuedit, run kmenuedit.
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#6 Postby JBoman » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:42 pm

I may try that as a last resort (dpkg-repack) but what in mepis-config causes the menu creation?; or what can be used to create similar menus in say straight Debian?. :needcoffee:
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#7 Postby kmathern » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:48 pm

JBoman wrote:I may try that as a last resort but what in mepis-config causes the menu creation?; or what can be used to create similar menus in say straight Debian?. :needcoffee:

Below is what dpkg -L shows as the contents of mepis-config, I think the items in /etc/xdg/menus might be what creates the menus.

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kent@mepis1:~$ dpkg -L mepis-config
/.
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/icons
/usr/share/icons/system-file-manager-su.png
/usr/share/common-licenses
/usr/share/common-licenses/MCWL
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/mepis-config
/usr/share/doc/mepis-config/copyright
/usr/share/applications
/usr/share/applications/dolphinsu.desktop
/usr/share/kde4
/usr/share/kde4/services
/usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus
/usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/kfindhere.desktop
/etc
/etc/adduser.conf
/etc/apt
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/80mepis
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/15periodic-update
/etc/apt/trustdb.gpg
/etc/apt/sources.list.d
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/mepis.list
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg
/etc/apt/preferences.d
/etc/apt/preferences.d/90mepis
/etc/issue.net
package diverts others to: /etc/issue.net.distrib
/etc/network
/etc/network/if-up.d
/etc/network/if-up.d/apt-update
/etc/skel
/etc/skel/Desktop
/etc/skel/Desktop/minstall.desktop
/etc/skel/Desktop/trash.desktop
/etc/skel/.kde
/etc/skel/.kde/share
/etc/skel/.kde/share/config
/etc/skel/.kde/share/config/kxkbrc
/etc/skel/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
/etc/skel/.kde/share/config/activitymanagerrc
/etc/skel/.kde/share/kde4
/etc/skel/.kde/share/kde4/services
/etc/skel/.kde/share/apps
/etc/skel/.kde/share/apps/dolphin
/etc/skel/.kde/share/apps/dolphin/dolphinui.rc
/etc/skel/.kde/share/apps/dolphin/view_properties
/etc/skel/.kde/share/apps/dolphin/view_properties/global
/etc/skel/.kde/share/apps/dolphin/view_properties/global/.directory
/etc/skel/.kde/share/apps/konsole
/etc/skel/.kde/share/apps/konsole/Shell.profile
/etc/skel/.synaptic
/etc/skel/.synaptic/synaptic.conf
/etc/skel/Mail
/etc/skel/Mail/.inbox.index
/etc/skel/Mail/spam
/etc/skel/Mail/spam/new
/etc/skel/Mail/spam/cur
/etc/skel/Mail/spam/tmp
/etc/skel/Mail/.outbox.index
/etc/skel/Mail/.inbox.index.ids
/etc/skel/Mail/drafts
/etc/skel/Mail/drafts/new
/etc/skel/Mail/drafts/cur
/etc/skel/Mail/drafts/tmp
/etc/skel/Mail/trash
/etc/skel/Mail/trash/new
/etc/skel/Mail/trash/cur
/etc/skel/Mail/trash/tmp
/etc/skel/Mail/.outbox.index.ids
/etc/skel/Mail/sent-mail
/etc/skel/Mail/sent-mail/new
/etc/skel/Mail/sent-mail/cur
/etc/skel/Mail/sent-mail/tmp
/etc/skel/Mail/outbox
/etc/skel/Mail/outbox/new
/etc/skel/Mail/outbox/cur
/etc/skel/Mail/outbox/tmp
/etc/skel/Mail/.spam.index
/etc/skel/Mail/.trash.index
/etc/skel/Mail/.drafts.index.ids
/etc/skel/Mail/.drafts.index
/etc/skel/Mail/.spam.index.ids
/etc/skel/Mail/.sent-mail.index
/etc/skel/Mail/inbox
/etc/skel/Mail/inbox/new
/etc/skel/Mail/inbox/cur
/etc/skel/Mail/inbox/tmp
/etc/skel/Mail/.trash.index.ids
/etc/skel/Mail/.sent-mail.index.ids
/etc/skel/Mail/.inbox.index.sorted
/etc/skel/.config
/etc/skel/.config/qtcurve
/etc/skel/.config/qtcurve/gtk-icons
/etc/skel/.config/qtcurve/stylerc
/etc/skel/.local
/etc/skel/.local/share
/etc/skel/Documents
/etc/motd.tail
/etc/lsb-release
/etc/kde4
/etc/kde4/kiorc
/etc/kde4/nepomukserverrc
/etc/kde4/ksplashrc
/etc/kde4/knemorc
/etc/kde4/kxkbrc
/etc/kde4/kcmclockrc
/etc/kde4/kwinrc
/etc/kde4/kmixrc
/etc/kde4/dolphinrc
/etc/kde4/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
/etc/kde4/kdeglobals
/etc/kde4/kwriterc
/etc/kde4/activitymanagerrc
/etc/xdg
/etc/xdg/menus
/etc/xdg/menus/kde4-applications.menu
package diverts others to: /etc/xdg/menus/kde4-applications.menu.distrib
/etc/fonts
/etc/fonts/conf.d
/etc/issue
package diverts others to: /etc/issue.distrib
/etc/skel/Desktop/Documents
/etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf

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Re: mepis-config & menu's question ???

#8 Postby Danum » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:06 pm

JBoman wrote:I may try that as a last resort (dpkg-repack) but what in mepis-config causes the menu creation?; or what can be used to create similar menus in say straight Debian?. :needcoffee:

The menus are the least of your problems, it is what else it removes,

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/etc/apt/sources.list.d
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/mepis.list
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg
/etc/apt/preferences.d
/etc/apt/preferences.d/90mepis

and without those you are going nowhere fast,
you can try dpkg-repack, as it is the only option, other than reinstalling.
Save to a usb stick, when it shows click to open with Dolphin, all you will get is a diolog asking what to open it with type in dolphin, save it in your home,
Click on Kmenu > Run Command, type in, kdesu dolphin
you should then be able to install it from there,
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Re: mepis-config & menu's question ???

#9 Postby JBoman » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:30 pm

I have already addressed the sources and preferences and it's working. On the menu thing here is what I found when looking at the files Kent suggested. I have a fresh install of 11.9.60 upgraded to unstable on a 8gb flash drive as well as this desktop install I messed up. I plugged in the flash drive and compared the flash install to my desktop install using Dolphin as root in a split window. In the flash install at /etc/xdg/menus I had 3 files of which the first was "kde4-applications.menu" and is 15mb. On the desktop install at the same location I also had 3 files but the first one was named "debian-menu.menu" @7mb and the "kde4-applications.menu" was not present. To be safe I renamed "debian-menu.menu" to "debian-menu.menu.bak" and copied "kde4-applications.menu" from the flash install to the desktop install and rebooted the system. SOLVED is the end result !!!.... All my menu entries are back as they were before deleting mepis-config. :number1: Thank you for the impossible fix ! :cool:
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Re: mepis-config & menu's question ???

#10 Postby Danum » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:42 pm

All my menu entries are back as they were before deleting mepis-config,

Does that include the Mepis menus, user etc and the service menu for root,
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