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Years ago if you went to an automotive repair garage or service station, you might see a sign posted that said something like:

LABOR RATE
$20 hour
$30 hour if you watch
$50 hour if you tried to fix it yourself first

I use the same kind of rate schedule. Jeez, if people would just call me before they totally trash their machines...

Latest is a nice W7 laptop, with four, count 'em four antimalware programs running on it (with an on-demand load of MBAM, just for good measure).

The funny thing is, the guy actually did eradicate all the maware (all I found were a few residual entries). But with Norton, AVG, MSE, and SpyHunter all battling each other, the darn thing would just barely, and I mean barely, run.

And somewhere in the process he's trashed out the Windows 7 BITS, which means Windows Update is FUBAR, and none of the fixes I found and threw at it over the course of an entire evening would persuade it to start up.

So this guy is going to get a reinstall. Cha ching!

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There's a word in Yiddish for that: Farpotshket

There's a lot of that on the Debian forums: "I can't install the latest foo package on Stable? Well, I'll fix that!"


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Are not people just wonderful with their money, to fix their toys? :linuxlove:

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Stevo wrote:
There's a word in Yiddish for that: Farpotshket

That's a keeper.
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There's a lot of that on the Debian forums: "I can't install the latest foo package on Stable? Well, I'll fix that!"

The ones I see fall into two categories. One are the people that have been ripped off by Geek Thieves or whoever and are desperate not to have to go through that again. I have some sympathy for them. The other are those so-called Windows "power users", who might be a wiz at Excel, but are clueless as to how anything on a computer actually works. They just won't admit it. I'm less sympathetic to those; when I get them cleaned up and fixed up they're usually still not happy and will look to blame everything and everyone but themselves.

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I've been living in blissful ignorance since I switched over to Linux on a permanent basis. It seemed that half the time I used to spend on a Windows computer involved cleaning it up or preventing it from being infected. Having two or three anti-malware programs running in Windows is not all that unusual, because one of them alone would not be even close to 100% effective. It took a huge load off not having to worry about that nonsense any more.

I cannot understand why anyone who only uses a computer to surf the web and access their e-mail would put up with all of the headaches and heartaches of Windows. That pretty much describes both of my daughters and my sister, all of whom ask me to fix their broken systems fairly regularly. I keep reminding them, "Isn't it funny that my computer doesn't seem to have any of these problems, and you wouldn't have them either if you'd let me install Linux on yours." Yet I haven't been able to "convert" any of them. My older daughter's excuse is that she needs Windows for MS Office. I showed her how LibreOffice and Kingsoft Office Suite can both effectively replace MS Office, but she still refuses to budge.

The next time one of these ladies begs me to fix her malware-infected machine, I'm tempted to wipe the HDD and install Linux on it without asking. But then she'd probably just go out and buy a new computer with Windows 10 on it. :rolleyes:

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Joany, why should they make the effort when they've got you to fix it for free.-)

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joany

All of my friends and most of my family have Linux installed now. I seldom have to work on a computer system, any longer. An occasional update, but it certainly was a battle, over MS office, Power Point, and Adobe photoshop with several family members and friends.

Now every one of them use Libre office, Gimp, and smile. But it was a large battle, with all the time consuming scans to keep a Windows system running half as fast as Mepis & MX-?? Linux. But I finally won the war, and have forgotten all about fixing the few family hold outs...

Tis funny they purchase new MS machines often rather than convert to Linux.

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arjaybe wrote:
Joany, why should they make the effort when they've got you to fix it for free.-)

I used the term "fix" rather loosely, so I'd feel really guilty charging them anything. When I work on one of those badly-infected machines, I can usually remove some of the most damaging malware, but even then they barely run. The only way they could really be restored back to an acceptable state would be a clean reinstallation, but nothing is ever backed up and the Windows installation disks are nowhere to be found.

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I was asked last week to fix a Windows machine. I do not do that anymore. I directed them to a small local three man shop and told them to stay away from BestBuy and the Geek Squad.

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richb wrote:
I directed them to a small local three man shop and told them to stay away from BestBuy and the Geek Squad.


Good job. Those guys are thieves.

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