Request for Assistance--Root vs User Difficulties

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Request for Assistance--Root vs User Difficulties

#1 Postby muskt » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:51 am

You all have been very helpful to me in the past, & I ask for more.

I reported recently that I had massive problems installing Roadblock Remaster-64 from DVD. It appear that it was my problem (possibly a bad burn). Anyway, I installed it to a flash drive, and after finally determining how to set the BIOS to boot from the flash drive (no small feat), I was successful in getting it installed and up & running. I do still get the notification that either KDE or Nepomunk (?) has crashed--every time I boot it. I can live with that.

Here is my biggest gripe. I CONSIDER THIS A BIG ONE!!!

Before I get straight into it, I need/want to make a statement.

I understand the concerns about safety of many of the users on the forum.. I DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO THEM!!!!!!!!! This is my computer, and I want to use it in any fashion that I desire. If my data is compromised or lost, so be it. It is my responsibility. (I guess I am in a worse mood than I previously thought.)

OK. While doing the setup (after installation) of the Roadbolck-64, I desired to access my Win 7 partition to copy a few files. Mepis completely refuses t allow this. I thought I could modify fstab to allow it to occur. I knew I needed to be ROOT to do so. I did that successfully. Next, I was told that I needed to modify something in the mnt folder. I tried to do that as USER, unsuccessfully. Back to ROOT. Got that accomplished--finally. Attempted to access the Win 7 partition again. This time, I was informed that I needed to do something in DEV. By this time, I'm really irritated!! All I want to do is copy a couple of MY files to another drive.

So, my question (if it is in fact a question) is, short of always logging in as ROOT, how do I go about accessing MY computer to work with MY files when I want to?

I find this incessant harrassing by the OS to be a real impediment to going farther with Mepis (Linux).

One more time. I understand the (supposed) security problems, so please do not explain them to me again.

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Jerry in Anchorage

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Re: Request for Assistance--Root vs User Difficulties

#2 Postby uncle mark » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:09 pm

muskt wrote:I thought I could modify fstab to allow it to occur. I knew I needed to be ROOT to do so. I did that successfully.



Are you sure?

Here's mine:

/dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,noatime 0

This automounts my W7 partition with full rw access.
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Re: Request for Assistance--Root vs User Difficulties

#3 Postby Jerry3904 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:25 pm

I think he means he needed to be root to change fstab, no?
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Re: Request for Assistance--Root vs User Difficulties

#4 Postby uncle mark » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:46 pm

Jerry3904 wrote:I think he means he needed to be root to change fstab, no?


Of course. But it sounded like the edits he may have done to fstab weren't working. I've used the fstab line I posted for forever; it differs from others I've seen posted as examples. If he edits his to match mine, I'd be surprised if it doesn't work.
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#5 Postby Utopia » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:05 pm

If the real question is how to do things the easy way, keep a "Dolphin as su" open until you've finished whatever it is. Minimize it instead of closing.
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Re: Request for Assistance--Root vs User Difficulties

#6 Postby muskt » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:27 pm

Thanks for the replies.
I had to go to the airport to work, & was offline for a bit.
I think you are correct in attempting to guess what I was ranting about.
I was able to mod fstab as root, but then it told me the drives were not mounted in mnt.
I attempted to do that as user, & it never said I needed to be root, it just didn't work.
Back to root.
Modded mnt to allow user permission to use the drive.
Back to user--now it says dev needs to be changed---where does it end???????
Dolphin as SU?? I really do not ever remember hearing about that one.
Found It!! I would not normally think to look in the nested menus for that. Kind of like going from LA to New York via Miami in my way of thinking.
Back to the topic.
Is there a simple way to set it up so that I can copy files without spending a huge amount of time and energy trying to satisfy the (*&%$$%^)OS to allow me to use my machine?
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Re: Request for Assistance--Root vs User Difficulties

#7 Postby uncle mark » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:48 pm

muskt wrote:Is there a simple way to set it up so that I can copy files without spending a huge amount of time and energy trying to satisfy the (*&%$$%^)OS to allow me to use my machine?


Have you edited your fstab file as I suggested?

That line also needs to be moved above the "Dynamic" line in the fstab file. (That little detail is probably another reason your previous attempts haven't worked.)
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Re: Request for Assistance--Root vs User Difficulties

#8 Postby muskt » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:55 pm

No sir, not yet.

My desktop box is the one I have Roadblock on, & I'm at work using my laptop.

I am about to leave on a series of flights very soon, & will not be back online till about 7PM Alaska time (Eastern minus 4 hours).

I will try it when I get home.

Thanks, again
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Re: Request for Assistance--Root vs User Difficulties

#9 Postby lucky9 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:02 pm

Bottom line is that there is a way to do this with the proper setups/tweaks made beforehand.

I think he buried the Dolphin as su menu choice as he did so that you were not mistakenly choosing it for the regular Dolphin. But that's just a guess on my part.
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Re: Request for Assistance--Root vs User Difficulties

#10 Postby matelot » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:31 pm

My Win7 partition is in the dynamic section. Always was. All I do is click on the icon in Dolphin - as user - and it mounts. Root doesn't enter the picture. Using Roadblock.
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